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  For the Supporters of Those Who Love Jehovah

  by lovesjehovah in

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  i am jehovah's witness, despite some of the questionable teachings, crimes, and other outlandish behaviors of specific people affiliated with the religion.

  i know that my relationship with jehovah is not influenced by any outside factors.

  i do not condone any crime.

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  Three classes?

  1. Those who love Jah

  2. Those who support those who love Jah.

  3. Those who don't give a squirt.

  Is that what you meant to imply, or do you have trouble expressing yourself without crayons?
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  Did I imagine a brief thaw in the Watchtower injunction against going to university?

  by slimboyfat in

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  okay i was talking to an elder and he said me going to university was a bad idea and i should have listened to the society and not gone.

  but i said that when i went to university the watchtower was saying it might not be a bad idea to go to, as long as you do it for the "right reasons", don't associate with worldly people, and keep clear of "damaging ideas".

  but basically they said it was okay, in this "changing world" and job market to go to university.

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  SBF, check you personal messages for some good news.
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  In The Name of Love, Need Your Opinion

  by thankyou in

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  i'm non-jw.. been following this forum.

  most of you folks have been through hell, but are still loving souls.

  i'm reeeally impressed and glad to be here.. my question is at the end of this.

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  You don't want help.
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  In The Name of Love, Need Your Opinion

  by thankyou in

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  2. relationships

  i'm non-jw.. been following this forum.

  most of you folks have been through hell, but are still loving souls.

  i'm reeeally impressed and glad to be here.. my question is at the end of this.

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  Do you watch "The Walking Dead" on cable?

  I hope you do.

  When a person becomes a walker, their humanity dies in a way that you are unable to "fix."

  The same thing happens to people who become JWs.

  She will eat your brains and feed them to her controlling parasites in Bethel.

  If that sounds like a good life choice to you, go for it.

  When your brain becomes infected with the Watchtower parasite you won't remember this discussion.
  
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  November eschatology

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  Jehovah's Witness leaders reeling

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  Cute, but in reality the world doesn't concern itself one iota with JWs.
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  1914—The Turning Point in History - Really?

  by berrygerry in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  1914the turning point in history.

  30 from the human standpoint, the world troubles and global wars foretold in the bible were far from the thinking of the pre-1914 world.

  german statesman konrad adenauer said: thoughts and pictures come to my mind, .

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  Half banana said, "it could not be said that the WT "always" said that the Kingdom was going to be invisible in the heavens..."

  I didn't say that.

  I said that "The Watchtower Bible & Tract Society has always claimed that what made the year 1914 significant were the events that were taking place in "the realm invisible.""

  There is a difference that is perhaps too subtle for you. Stick with it, your reading comprehension may improve.

  
  
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  1914—The Turning Point in History - Really?

  by berrygerry in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  1914the turning point in history.

  30 from the human standpoint, the world troubles and global wars foretold in the bible were far from the thinking of the pre-1914 world.

  german statesman konrad adenauer said: thoughts and pictures come to my mind, .

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  Simon said, "The 1914 date was something they plucked out of the air..."

  Not entirely. If you add 40 years to 1874 you arrive at 1914. The "Bible Basis" for this was 40-days-for-years to allow for the sanctification of the tabernacle. Today there are certainly very few JWs who understand this detail of "Bible-based chronology".

  The pivotal year 1874 is thus entombed in Watchtower doctrine.

  "God has a set time for every feature of his plan, and that we are even now in this "Day of Vengeance," which is a period of forty years; that it began in October, 1874, and will end in October, 1914 [very shortly]." Studies In the Scriptures Series IV - The Day of Vengeance -pp.546, 547"

  
  
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  Does this fact in it`s own right , prove the Garden Of Eden story false to be no more than a fable ?

  by smiddy in

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  thinking about life in general reflecting on the abundance of life on this planet , it became obvious to me that every living thing , those flying in the heavens ,living on the earth , or existing in the oceans , is all possible for one reason , and one reason only.. every living thing exists at the expense of the death of some other living thing , life and death go hand in hand.. the same is true even in the microscopic world .. every living thing feeds off some other unfortunate living thing.that`s nature at its most basic observation , but true.. what the noachian flood story overlooks is the vast amount of living marine life that existed and flourished and not influenced or affected by what supposedly went on , on land.. 99.9 % of all living creatures if not 100% live by the death of some other living creature and the same would have to be true in the garden of eden if it was to have existed in the first place .. no thing can live if it does not devour some other living thing .

  a fact of life .. apologists are welcome to support god , by suggesting miraculous interventions by god that have no scriptual basis.

  i guess any nature video of the animal kingdom , marine life in the oceans , or videos of the bird life , as in nature series should make this clear .. smiddy.

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  Does this fact in it`s own right , prove the Garden Of Eden story false to be no more than a fable ?

  by smiddy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  thinking about life in general reflecting on the abundance of life on this planet , it became obvious to me that every living thing , those flying in the heavens ,living on the earth , or existing in the oceans , is all possible for one reason , and one reason only.. every living thing exists at the expense of the death of some other living thing , life and death go hand in hand.. the same is true even in the microscopic world .. every living thing feeds off some other unfortunate living thing.that`s nature at its most basic observation , but true.. what the noachian flood story overlooks is the vast amount of living marine life that existed and flourished and not influenced or affected by what supposedly went on , on land.. 99.9 % of all living creatures if not 100% live by the death of some other living creature and the same would have to be true in the garden of eden if it was to have existed in the first place .. no thing can live if it does not devour some other living thing .

  a fact of life .. apologists are welcome to support god , by suggesting miraculous interventions by god that have no scriptual basis.

  i guess any nature video of the animal kingdom , marine life in the oceans , or videos of the bird life , as in nature series should make this clear .. smiddy.

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  Smiddy, have you been corresponding with Victor Frankenstein?

  It seems your premise *might* be that first there was DEATH, then there was life.

  There *might* have been a time, very early in the history of life on earth, (about 4 billion years ago) when there was no predation. Back then all life was in the oceans, and each creature was self-reliant, sustaining life by absorbing energy. Predation had not yet been "invented."